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Thanks Norbert, but some pictures would be cool!

Hello Norbert,

i’m following your reviews with great attention and i’d like to ask you some questions about the WAVE in its current state, since Eldar Murtazin stopped answering questions after he suggested it in the first place on his blog, but anyways:

What can you tell us about the obvious limitations of the WAVE, i.e.:

1. How many native Apps can run simultaneously till the phone runs out of resources ?

2. How many bada-Apps can run simultaneously? Is it even possible?

3. How about Dolphin 2.0 – is it able to handle Flash, like animations, videos etc.?

4. How many SMS, Appointments, Memos, Tasks can be saved? Or is it dynamically handled like the phone book?

5. Did you try synchronizing with KIES ? How does the WAVE respond?
Is it possible to sync Groups and Call-IDs, save from and restore SMS back to the phone?

6. Is it possible to record conversations?

7. Is it true that the Voice-Recognition App was removed?

Thats it for now. Thank you very much in advance for taking the time to answer these questions, much appreciated.

BadaBing

Hi there, wow, a lot of questions :)
I haven’t tried everything you’re asking for, but that kind of gives me some more tasks to test with the wave.

1) and 2)
Unfortunately It is not possible to run apps simultaneously. There is a difference between a “bada app” and a “base app”. base apps are apps like phone, phonebook, contacts, calendar etc. actually those where a developer can hook into with his own app, but not extend the base functionality. However, there are background services running on a bada device where a developer is able to register events which then call the app if any of those events fire (e.g. incoming SMS, email etc.)
3) Flash is supported, in the browser as well as there is a special flash-control for developers to use for own apps. We are about to develop a game app which we’d like to work with flash. I can give you more details on that when we’re on the way with it.
4) As far as I can see it, it’s handled dynamically, but I’m not sure on that.
5) Haven’t tried yet, but I’ll take that as a task.
6) Just checked that and I’m positively surprised that this is possible.
7) I didn’t know anything about a voice-recognition app and I can’t anything about it on the phone or in developer board at the moment. A Text To Speech API is a planned feature though.

I hope the answers can help you,
Regards
Norbert

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Hello Norbert,

thanks for your reply.

As for the voice recognition app please take a look at this video (starting at 0:40) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zygclc63mNg

Seems like they dropped it because of stability reasons, but as long as the API supports it, maybe feature apps will provide such functions.

After your experiences you collected until now with the WAVE, what are the major drop-backs or negative aspects in your opinion ?

Thanks again and looking forward to your reply.

BadaBing

Hello,
I’m still unsure as to how the multitasking will work. So i’ll put my actual usage upfront. What I do is have Fring open all day and everyday and sometimes I use the camera for pics vids and then I would open qik to make vids or then i’d click a link sent to me via fring which would open a browser on which id have multiple pages open. It’d be great if I was to be able to get some downtime by playing a game too. Would this be possible? I dont think it is is it. Also I don’t know all the apps which are ‘base apps’.
I do all this with my HTC Diamond(except qik) and if im unable to do all this i’m going ot have to go with the Galaxy S instead unfortunately.

Hey,

Having problems connecting this phone to the computer. Samsung Kies wont detect the wave phone and Im not sure what else to try! Been trying for hours! All my drivers are up to date also.

@Sid:
It’s not that easy to compare the bada architecture with the android architecture I think. The problem that one as a developer has is, that you can’t just send an event to the system and some other applications pics it up (e.g. the barcode scanner on android). Still, there is a lot that the API gives you to use all that functionality in your own application like camera or phone book. I actually don’t know if I can click a link in an application that will open the browser but I also think that this might be a problem with this architecture. I don’t know how fring works but from what I read about it (in the last 2 minutes) it probably needs a background service to work and react on incoming data. In bada that’s not possible. There might be different ways for a work around to do so, but I’d need more information about the architecture then. Maybe the Galaxy S is the better phone for you (I had it for two days at droidcon in Berlin last week, it’s an awesome phone)

@Craig:
As you might have seen already, I tested my Wave with Kies and had no difficulties in connecting it to my PC. Have you set the USB connection to “Samsung Kies”? What Version are you running? (to find the Version, type *#1234# on the dial-pad)
I have a special non-public partner version running so there might be differences between them.

Iv checked that it is set to “Samsung Kies” in the USB connection yes. I am using version

sw version
S8500XXJEE

csc version
S8500XEUJEC

What happens is that my computer begins to install the MPT device and once it has installed it, it begins to install it again and jst does this over and over. At the same time “Samsung Kies” just continues to search for the device without finding anything. I am also using the newest version of “Samsung Kies”. Really not sure what else to try!

Same problem here, the driver keeps installing time after time. Is there a correct MTP USB driver download somewere.

Well, it seems that the program Kies has not been build for an 64 bit windows :(
Let’s hope this will be fixed soon

joins to craig. the same to to me. kies just doesnt work with win7. btw, the phone seems really good. it is stable which is was the most important feature for me, battery time is really nice also, not to mention the camera quality and the Super AMOLED display, which is superb, really. However I am not totally happy because the only way to use the phone as a modem (which is working), is the mobile AP (wi-fi). To be honest, I expected (and fear from) this. The only phones which worked for me well in this field were all win mobile 6.x devices. (internet sharing) (with windows and ubuntu)

OK, it is working. I didn’t have another internet access I used the PC only with the S8500. When I put the PC on a normal wi-fi access and connected the s8500 in Kies mode the Win7 downloaded the required drivers and WHOA everything just worked after. but that 150MB Kies connectivity software is a pain, I’d e happier something simpler connectivity solution <10MB

Glad you guys worked it out, sry for this late reply, I’m on vacation and just check my email occasionally :)

Ok, well workt it out ;) just accepted that there is no sollution at the moment.
When i will find the correct driver i will post it on the forum.

Cant connect to kies?? tried everything did connect once but fails every time now?Love the phone but why cant Samsung make a software app that its phones can connect to???????
Might go back to my good old iphone yet. Come on Samsung w t f .

@Shergar: have you checked that all running programs are closed? Press the middle button for some seconds and at the upcoming screen you can select “close all applications” (or similiar). Close the apps and after i did that i was able to connect.

Thomas

I just encountered this problem once I enabled security passwords….previously no problem, enabled various passwords and all of a sudden Keis can’t talk to the phone anymore, resulting in lots of obscure symptoms, driver reloads, hang-ups, App running extraordinarily slowly and hanging up my PC….
Removed main password and all now good, although Keis did ask for the next level password, which I’d left in – it does have an auto remember feature for this password. – Obvious really, but who’d'a thought ;)
Cheers,
Dave.

yes Thomas tried that got it to connect once only, then would not connect any more???

Sending my phone back as Samsung tech s cannot even solve this problem Shame on Samsung to release a excellent phone with crap software? Back to the good old Iphone for me.
Noticed the signal was dropping alot as well when out of towns.?? might be an issue with these phones aswell?

I have same problem. I cant connect with kies. But when i change USB connect still “USB Storage” my computer open wave’s memory card. Sory for my bad englisgh i hope you understand me.

Where can i find the best place to resolve all the issues related to Samsung Wave ?

Problem is i am not able to manage groups with my PC in the kies window?Any suggestions

to connect the phone to kies
Close kies
Press and hold menu button on the phone – select end all applications
Select smasung kies under settings-connectivity-USB-samsung kies
Connect to computer with USB cable(have a windows 7 64 bit OS)
Windows will automatically install MTP driver and opens up its own window to manipulate the contents of the phone.
Now start kies, and it will recognize the phone and allow all its function on the phone

@Nitin Mehta:
Check http://www.samsungmobile.com for boards that are in your language and check if they have a Wave-Thread already (the probably do)
If you understand German language, you can check this link here http://forum.samsungmobile.de/samsung-s8500-wave.html

please help,

not able to connect my samsung wave via USB to my PC.
For that i have selected the mass storage option in settings->connectivity.
After connection it is showing a new removable disk on my computer ,but i am not able to open that disk.

Please help. Its weird but at times i cant connect to google or gmail. But im able to run facebook app.Its just that the browser wouldnt work and the pop up error states that theres no network response.

@RahulT
Close all running application before connecting it as mass storage device ( press and hold the menu button i.e the middle button and select end all application)

hi,i have some problem with the browser. I tried to logout from my facebook.It shows “Bad Request Your browser sent a request that this server could not understand.Reference #7.9583fe3c.1278841876.3804786″ It keep on showing this message…

Thanks Dr H P Anand!!

That helped me out big time! All of my frustrations and anger is now away with the wind, in a white cloud of pathetic scum.

Follow Dr H P Anand’s tips guys, it worket straight away with me!
Took about 4-5 min total, no big deal at all!

Cheers from Norway,
Asbjørn

i had the same problem with the mtp usb device driver earlier. it took me the whole day trying to figure out what’s wrong with my phone. good thing i came across your site and read about closing all applications prior to connecting the cable and running kies. it works. thanks for the posts guys!

Please help me ! I have tried to set up hotmail and gmail on my wave, but it i cannot connect and keep getting the message no response !

The middle button trick solved my problem, thx a lot to all.

what do you think is wrong with my wave connecting with my pc…everytime i connect my phone. it’ll automatically detect my samsung and it’ll install mtp but it will go to halt due to error installation…what could be the problem for this? pls reply.thanks

My wave is just 2 days old.Have anyone of you tried connecting Kies via Bluetooth, i read else where that connecting with BT is unresolved issue.After using Nokia’s for more than 10 years, it feels pretty complicated to connect the phone..

hi Dr. H.P.Anand, well is it necessary to have windows 7 to install kies??? can’t kies b installed on xp or vista????

@Jags
I had tried it on XP 32 bits and the procedure works equally well

I had just bought this new wave and I’m really amazed with it’s features but it has a back log and trying to figure out what’s wrong with it. When I need to access the internet through my phone an error pops saying “Internal server error”, so I will switch off the phone and turn it on, with that I can connect and disconnect with the internet.The problem was if after sometime your not connected to the internet and decided to access the internet the error message prompts again, so you need to repeat the annoying process of turning the cellphone “on” and “off” all over again just to have an internet connection. It would be highly appreciated if you could help me on this annoying circumstances

I have had the Samsung Wave for about 15 days now.
I have activated Vodafone Mobile Connect in Mumbai.
All facebook related things are working fine.
I am unable to configure my GMAIL and GTALK in the phone.

However, GMAIL is accessible with the Google widget. But EMAIL SYNC is not working. Can someone pleeez help!

MM

how do i use my video calling?

Ivé installed samsung kies on my computer but when i am connecting the phone to the computer it doesn´t find the usb driver.. can someone please help med?

Regards
/Peter